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Oct. 4th, 2011 | 06:31 am

I wish all these energetic, persistent, and idealistic young people had converged on Wall St. in 2008 when George Bush bailed out the banks, or in early 2009 when President Obama, as his first act in office signed an order to close Guantanamo, only to be stymied by Republicans and fake Democrats in Congress, or when the President tried to give us a decent and fair health care system, only to have it corrupted and twisted by those same legislators, but they didn't, they are there now.

So now what? Some of the demonstrators want to bring it all down. They want an end to Capitalism, our system of government, our political leadership globally, all of it. But what comes after that? Nobody seems to have a plan. Nobody seems to have considered the consequences of "success". Do we really want a descent into Anarchy followed by generations of struggle to try to build a society? Or do we want to take back control of the government we have?

Occupy Tucson articulated two goals after their first meeting: "1) stripping corporations of their undeserved status as "persons" and 2) making it unlawful for corporations to contribute to political campaigns."

Compared to the laundry list of complaints and demands publicized recently by the New York demonstrators, this is concise, well thought out, and actually an achievable goal. Accomplishing these two things will take care of most every other complaint the demonstrators have.

So how do we do it? Most "occupiers" will hate this, but we do it at the ballot box. To overturn Citizens United, we need one of two things, a dramatically changed Supreme Court, or a Constitutional Amendment. Both require working very very hard to put Progressive people in Congress and the Senate. There is a movement to investigate Clarence Thomas for corruption. This will go nowhere unless we put people in Congress to make it happen. Likewise any constitutional amendment won't happen without both a Progressive Congress and a majority of Progressives in State Legislatures ready to confirm it.

Stay on the street, continue to occupy, become the headline, but then translate all that energy and power to occupying Congress through the ballot box. Do not abdicate the most powerful tool you have. Please. The world is watching and counting on you.

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SHAY-mus D

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from: seamusd
date: Oct. 4th, 2011 01:56 pm (UTC)
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There comes a time when the usual channels don't work, when people are so frustrated by the political system that ignores them, when people get themselves into a lifetime of debt to buy a college education and still can't find a job, when the ballot box no longer works (see voter suppression and Diebold!). I know you're idealistically loyal to the Democratic Party and maintaining law and order, but these are extraordinary times and that version of America died a long time ago. Dave, there are very few viable candidates left. I can almost count them on one hand. I don't have exact figures and wouldn't know where to find them, but I'll take an educated guess and say that 90% of all American politicians in Washington have been bought by corporate campaign donors. And I'm thinking back to 2009 when the Democrats had by far the largest mandate since 1980 and polls showing strong support for comprehensive health care reform and we got a watered-down, pro-insurance company law that won't solve one of the major problems in America. The old way isn't bringing the change we need. History shows the only way to fix a corrupt system is to break it and start over. I'm about to join them. People often complain that smelly hippies marching in the streets is a disgrace, but it gets their attention.

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from: i
date: Oct. 4th, 2011 02:04 pm (UTC)
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My post responds directly to everything you just said.

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SHAY-mus D

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from: seamusd
date: Oct. 4th, 2011 02:07 pm (UTC)
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I know. Did you see this? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-murray/occupy-wall-street-protest_b_988341.html

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from: i
date: Oct. 4th, 2011 02:43 pm (UTC)
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now i have. this made me laugh: "I know Ralph Nader truly believes this stuff, but I don't know where the hell he is right now. Ralph is probably reminding some disgruntled grocery clerk that Gore couldn't even carry his home state of Tennessee in the 2000 election." but that aside, I agree with most of what he said, but he leaves out the inescapable fact that, to implement change, we have to use the power of the ballot box unless we are willing to tear down everything we have built over the last two centuries in the hope of building some as yet unimagined and probably ephemeral better system.

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Occupy Wall Steet and then what?

from: anonymous
date: Oct. 8th, 2011 11:18 pm (UTC)
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I see it that Occupy Wall Street generally is a vote against crony capitalism not capitalism itself. A bigger issue is the Occupy the Federal Reserve movement.

Our money has been destroyed by the unconstitutional Federal reserve by the bankster cartels that own it and an oligarchy of banksters and big corporate monopolies have been running our government for decades through their special interest control of most of your representatives.

Way past time to end the Federal Reserve.

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Re: Occupy Wall Steet and then what?

from: i
date: Oct. 8th, 2011 11:49 pm (UTC)
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I don't know who you are, but it is evident that you are a Ron Paul supporter. I suggest reading this excellent article on his book

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