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Sep. 12th, 2001 | 05:00 am
i agree with my friend
whorlpool. the men who committed these acts were far from cowards. no matter how misguided your cause, to die for it takes immense courage. the cowards are the men who fed their fanaticism for their own political gains, sent them on this mission, and now sit comfortably in their homes.
my thoughts exactly
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 05:57 am (UTC)
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there's the truth."
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invisibella
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 06:51 am (UTC)
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Well, I'll be challenging the airways this weekend. I don't think if someone on that plane looks me in the face, than takes my life, my family would want to hear how courageous that killer was.
Not meant to offend, Dave, I just think this is all still too raw for me. I'm not able to look at the big picture....it's just too soon, my brother's not home yet, and I'll be getting on a plane Saturday.....
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 07:01 am (UTC)
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 08:40 am (UTC)
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ex_wing191
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 08:42 am (UTC)
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Were E. Harris and D. Klebold cowards?
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low_delta
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 10:48 am (UTC)
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They were driven by desperation, like the terrorists, but they were driven nonetheless.
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ex_wing191
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 10:54 am (UTC)
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What is at the root of acts of terrorism if it isn't fear: fear of the "west", fear of being ostracised or different, fear of those whose valutes are different than their own, etc. ?
I think fanaticism is ultimately a manifestation of fear.
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low_delta
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 04:25 pm (UTC)
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 08:19 pm (UTC)
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didnt you do your homework sonny?
*note my patronistic tone of voice*
didnt you read george Orwells book 1984?
Didnt you study into the propaganda germany used to turn the poeple against the world?
If you didnt support this authoritarian rule, you were simply put to death...
the pictures of all those who did not "honour" this ideal from the masterminds, and such the conequences is their blood shed that dominated a people in terror.
fear oppressed turnes to revolt, such a fuel for war.
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ex_wing191
date: Sep. 13th, 2001 06:00 am (UTC)
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All of the above? I don't know.
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sunshine_two
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 07:03 am (UTC)
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While I don't believe in the hate/revenge propganda that some people are spewing from their LJ's these days (it is their own opinion tho)... I don't think we should be honouring those that commit attrocious acts. Perhaps I'm mis-interpreting your journal entry tho.
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 11:40 pm (UTC)
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the line is a fine one, but I wouldn't use the word courage.
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 07:21 am (UTC)
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Re: the line is a fine one, but I wouldn't use the word courage.
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ravengirl
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 07:33 am (UTC)
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i agree, "fanatic" is more suitable.
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Re: the line is a fine one, but I wouldn't use the word courage.
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 09:03 am (UTC)
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Re: the line is a fine one, but I wouldn't use the word courage.
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 01:00 pm (UTC)
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Re: the line is a fine one, but I wouldn't use the word courage.
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 12:50 pm (UTC)
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scottobear
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 12:28 pm (UTC)
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maybe this is a better summation. :)
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invisibella
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 03:20 pm (UTC)
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 02:00 pm (UTC)
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and i dont believe they were ruled by thier fear anyways. by thier anger, yes, by thier need for vengance yes, but probably not by fear.
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ravenritings
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 07:11 pm (UTC)
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not cowards my fucking arse!!!
it takes courage to LIVE man...
hey dont forget whorlpool is the one saying how he was suicidal and was hopeless and what the fuck...
yeah..then join a fanatic cause and give your life to that and suck off it and fool yourself to think you are not cowards...
those who committed the terrorist attacks were sick..
were not couragous in the very fucking least!!!
life gets painful at times
try live with that...
it is NOT couragouse to take your life out...
you only have to be totally wacked out on fear so driven past any sense or commonsense and its EASY to kill yourself!! thats the easy way out...
you try and actually survive terror,
get over it and get on with a healthy existance...
THAT is courage!
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the scourge
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 07:44 pm (UTC)
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how fucking selfish is it to kill yourself and kill others too...
for every one person killed
there are about 10 mourners!!!
suiciders are selfish and insensitive to those close to them, friends and family and such their commitments to the community...
they bring about instability,
for how can you rely on them, their life, if they take it in vain..they are a direct danger to those who care about them, they threaten disease with thier bad intentions not resolved-as they are too cowardly to define their problems to resolve such so their problems continue to fester and so are oppressed to be the fuel that drives them on, the fuselage of them flying high so great is from massing all such the complexities of human sense in their life, oppressed by denial is makes them dence, thick n real stupid like a not so complex creature is as they be one, or one of a big wam bang dangle of a sensationalality. And so of this powerful sensastion they make a stand as if they are faultless things toward some ideal, so are they empowered by their own contempt for life..
tis a scourge..
and they weaken the state, making us more vaunerable to an opposing faction of the very same kind of disease..
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ravenritings
date: Sep. 12th, 2001 08:06 pm (UTC)
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things have no choice
things have no self preservation
things can be worked precicely
things dont consider loved ones who mourn their loss
things can be traded, things can be bartered, things can be stolen and given away...
AND...things can be what we make of each other
when we dont regard each other as
capable of having ones own choice,
having the sense of self preservation,
the ability to learn from our faults
and the reciprocation of care in our relationships...
when we can define those who simply deny themselves the ability n such of all these qualities that make us human..
so we are aware of them being inhumane...
being things.
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 09:32 pm (UTC)
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date: Sep. 12th, 2001 08:10 pm (UTC)
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